[Lugstuff] Regarding a new Meeting Place.

Tue Sep 23 09:24:30 EDT 2008

Maryland Hall of the Arts? I haven't checked there yet, no. I'll fire
off an e-mail as long as nobody else has. I remember taking classes
there a while ago, however it was for a very short time so I don't know
how their facilities are.

Thomas

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 09:09:44AM -0400, Turnquist, Scott (STURNQUI) wrote:
> All, has anyone checked with Maryland Hall (Old Annapolis High school - on
> Chase St in Annapolis) for space? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lugstuff-bounces at annapolislinux.org
> [mailto:lugstuff-bounces at annapolislinux.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Gallen
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:02 PM
> To: Patrick Roanhouse
> Cc: Thomas Gallen; lugstuff at annapolislinux.org
> Subject: Re: [Lugstuff] Regarding a new Meeting Place.
> 
> > Well they said the gateway for entry to the general public of the 
> > school would not be able to join in on such a group. The 
> > administration are bunch of closed minded mouth breathers.
> 
> I misread that as "administrators", however either reading of the sentence
> would be no less true than the other (yeah I went there).
> 
> > of closed minded mouth breathers. Its what happens when you have a 
> > rather conservative minded group of people in charge. They have five 
> > different christian organizations who are allowed to used state 
> > provided funds for club organizations yet when they tried to put in 
> > the student muslim association you don't even want to hear the stories 
> > I heard from friends who tried to start that.
> 
> The workplace here can be refered to in no other way than "a politically
> charged, cut-throat mess". Each "division" or "department" might as well be
> a different country, each fighting over their toys, policies, and trying to
> leverage their position against everyone else. If you ever want to work in a
> truly "classed" workplace where each person in each position above you
> thinks they're more important than the last, this would be the place. The
> reason I don't need to hear your story isn't because it's bad, it's because
> I have my own (not about clubs though, I didn't even bother with clubs).
> 
> > Anyway AACC is what it is, Another Appalling Community College.
> 
> That's a new one. I'll tell my boss that tomorrow. I've only heard "Any
> Asshole Can Come" myself.
> 
> > What few amazing teachers they have there they pigeon hole and make it 
> > diffcult to have anything new. Ask Prof. Seabrook his story about 
> > trying to get his python class.
> 
> I will next time I get a chance to speak to him. Funny that you mention
> creating new classes, because his Advanced Linux/UNIX System Administration
> class just "disappeared" from the catalogue this semester. I've been trying
> to get independant study with him but we contacted him too late so we'll
> probably end up doing that during the spring.
> 
> > I'm glad I matriculated to a big kids school.
> 
> A.) Which one.
> B.) Can I come?
> C.) They have any openings in IT or related technology positions?
> 
> In closing, this is one of those jobs where NOT being a team player actually
> gets things done quicker. As this e-mail is only going to get further into
> "fire the fucker" territory though, I should probably move any further
> stories off of the mailing list. >___>;
> 
> Thomas
> 
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 07:22:14PM -0400, Patrick Roanhouse wrote:
> > Well they said the gateway for entry to the general public of the 
> > school would not be able to join in on such a group. The 
> > administration are bunch of closed minded mouth breathers. Its what 
> > happens when you have a rather conservative minded group of people in 
> > charge. They have five different christian organizations who are 
> > allowed to used state provided funds for club organizations yet when 
> > they tried to put in the student muslim association you don't even 
> > want to hear the stories I heard from friends who tried to start that. 
> > Anyway AACC is what it is, Another Appalling Community College. What 
> > few amazing teachers they have there they pigeon hole and make it 
> > diffcult to have anything new. Ask Prof. Seabrook his story about 
> > trying to get his python class. I'm glad I matriculated to a big kids
> school.
> >
> >
> > On Sep 22, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Thomas Gallen wrote:
> >
> >> This place is never "full" so to speak. It's a waste really. So many 
> >> empty classrooms and nothing to do with them. At least, nothing we're 
> >> allowed to do with them. I agree that it's a waste of taxpayers money 
> >> to boast such "high tech" facilities then leave them to gather dust.
> >>
> >> I also meant to ask what happened when you tried to start a Linux 
> >> Users Group here at the college. Were you denied? If so, were you 
> >> given a reason? I'd love to hear why they wouldn't let you create 
> >> such a great club when they allow some other many times more 
> >> pointless clubs to exist.
> >>
> >> Thomas
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 04:38:14PM -0400, Patrick Roanhouse wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You would think that being it is a community college and funded by 
> >>> tax payers that they would fully open it to the use of the community 
> >>> at large for use when not full. For town meetings or other 
> >>> organizations. They really should pass a a state bill to allow 
> >>> community college to be used when public locations are not available 
> >>> to public community organizations.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 22, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Thomas Gallen wrote:
> >>>> I've confirmed this with a coworker, however, he gave me the 
> >>>> contact information of the group that deals with reservations, so 
> >>>> I'm going to try contacting them directly.
> >>>>
> >>>> I also agree about the lack of community halls. This annoys the 
> >>>> shite out of me since there really isn't anywhere that you can 
> >>>> gather for larger events such as uninterrupted public speaking and 
> >>>> hardware/software demonstration.
> >>>>
> >>>> Looking at the schedule, the amount of free space available here is 
> >>>> ridiculous and a huge waste of space and resources so I'll see if I 
> >>>> can't find some way to get an area. The current bookstore/coffee 
> >>>> shop meetings just don't seem like they would scale too well in the
> future.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thomas
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 01:33:50PM -0400, Patrick Roanhouse wrote:
> >>>>> I am a former student of AACC and also the program manager for 
> >>>>> Annapolis Apple Slice Mac Users Group as well. We looked into 
> >>>>> getting one of the auditoriums in CALT since the Severna Park 
> >>>>> library is closed now on sundays. You have to book at least two 
> >>>>> months in advance as well as pay a 200 dollar fee since it not a 
> >>>>> school club or organization. I also had tried to start a Linux 
> >>>>> User Group at the school but was only able to start a Network 
> >>>>> Security Club before I matriculated schools. I think it is kind of 
> >>>>> sad for the Annapolis Maryland area that we don't have the same 
> >>>>> kind of community halls like Virginia counties have. Not only for 
> >>>>> community club organizations but also for the fact you can't be 
> >>>>> active and come to town government meetings on the scale of 
> >>>>> inclusion like they do say in Fairfax in VA with their huge 
> >>>>> community meeting hall.
> >
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