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<DIV>Doesnt that version of OpenSUSE use PulseAudio and not alsa? </DIV>
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<TD>Lugstuff Digest, Vol 18, Issue 8</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Send Lugstuff mailing list submissions to<BR>lugstuff@annapolislinux.org<BR><BR>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR><A href="http://list.annapolislinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugstuff">http://list.annapolislinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugstuff</A><BR>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>lugstuff-request@annapolislinux.org<BR><BR>You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>lugstuff-owner@annapolislinux.org<BR><BR>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>than "Re: Contents of Lugstuff digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR> 1. Sound issues (Aaron Nye)<BR> 2. Re: Sound issues (Thomas Gallen)<BR> 3. Thank you for your responses - still seeking a solution<BR> (David F Bleil)<BR> 4. Re: Thank you for your responses - still seeking asolution<BR> (Thomas Gallen)<BR> 5. Re: It only gets more interesting -read confusing. (Theodore Knab)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:25:56 -0500<BR>From: Aaron Nye <aaron.nye@gmail.com><BR>Subject: [Lugstuff] Sound issues<BR>To: lugstuff@annapolislinux.org<BR>Message-ID:<BR><eb90d3ee1001201025p4b51a06ene3771e5773adbe3f@mail.gmail.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>Hi... FNG here.<BR><BR>I've had a sound issue since kernel 2.6.24 (in Ubuntu and Slackware).<BR>My main system uses an Intel HDA, and since updating past .24, Pulse<BR>will run away for no discernible reason, sometimes when no sound app<BR>is running. I know when it does with a quick glance at the system<BR>monitor. One of my cores will be maxed out. A quick kill -9 fixes<BR>it, but it is a pain. I have it down to about twice a day now by<BR>fiddling with driver settings, but I wonder what the team did to these<BR>most recent kernels that caused it.<BR><BR>I missed the beginning of this thread, but I'll go back and see if I<BR>maybe able to offer any insight (though, it isn't likely).<BR><BR><--snip--><BR><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> I have never attempted to ?install just a kernel other than by means of the distro installer on the dvd and I am reluctant to attempt to do so for fear that I might end with an unbootable system. What I would really would like to understand ?is how the kernel modulse interact with the kernel and how the module could be modified to pass the proper parameters to the kernel so that it would load and function. When I use Yast to set up the sound driver I get a message that the kernel could not load the sound module because something in the module is incorrect.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Knoppix recognizes and uses the sound chip automatically so I know it can be done. I have reinstalled the alsa tool kit and alsa files. Yast no longer claims that they are not found but instead that the module can not be loaded by the kernel. What information does the sound module have to pass to the kernel for it to be loaded and how can that be modified?</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR><BR><--snip--><BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> On Monday 18 January 2010 09:52:44 am Theodore Knab wrote:</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> I would try reinstalling the kernel first.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> running ? uname -r ? ?I get 2.6.27.42-0.1-pae</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> I used to have ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2.6.27.42-0.1-default</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> I presume that the kernel I have now is an updated (patched) one. How would I</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> make sure that I am installing the correct kernel? I think the "default"</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> kernel is the one which came on the installation dvd.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR><BR>-- <BR>Aaron Nye<BR>aaron.nye@gmail.com<BR><A href="http://theakkadian.com">http://theakkadian.com</A><BR>m. 443-791-9580<BR>f. 443-308-0124<BR><BR>-----------------------------<BR><BR>"There are two kinds of people, those who want to be left alone and<BR>those who won't leave them alone."<BR><BR>-- Doreen Hannes<BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:46:08 -0500<BR>From: Thomas Gallen <kaori.hinata@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Lugstuff] Sound issues<BR>To: Aaron Nye <aaron.nye@gmail.com><BR>Cc: lugstuff@annapolislinux.org<BR>Message-ID: <D2C074B1-A809-4804-89E5-AF2AB0A9F559@gmail.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<BR><BR>Hiya,<BR><BR>There have been a few bugs submitted to the bug trackers for Ubuntu and Fedora that sound like the issue you're describing (I've included them below). By any chance would you be able to check the output of the "dmesg" command or the last few lines of the file "/var/log/messages" the next time pulseaudio dies and post the results here to the mailing list if you find anything talking about pulseaudio? You'll find some examples of what the messages might look like at the links below.<BR><BR><A href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485734">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485734</A><BR><A href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-rt/+bug/481619">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-rt/+bug/481619</A><BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Thomas<BR><BR>On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Aaron Nye wrote:<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Hi... FNG here.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> I've had a sound issue since kernel 2.6.24 (in Ubuntu and Slackware).</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> My main system uses an Intel HDA, and since updating past .24, Pulse</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> will run away for no discernible reason, sometimes when no sound app</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> is running. I know when it does with a quick glance at the system</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> monitor. One of my cores will be maxed out. A quick kill -9 fixes</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> it, but it is a pain. I have it down to about twice a day now by</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> fiddling with driver settings, but I wonder what the team did to these</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> most recent kernels that caused it.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> I missed the beginning of this thread, but I'll go back and see if I</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> maybe able to offer any insight (though, it isn't likely).</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> <--snip--></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> I have never attempted to install just a kernel other than by means of the distro installer on the dvd and I am reluctant to attempt to do so for fear that I might end with an unbootable system. What I would really would like to understand is how the kernel modulse interact with the kernel and how the module could be modified to pass the proper parameters to the kernel so that it would load and function. When I use Yast to set up the sound driver I get a message that the kernel could not load the sound module because something in the module is incorrect.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> Knoppix recognizes and uses the sound chip automatically so I know it can be done. I have reinstalled the alsa tool kit and alsa files. Yast no longer claims that they are not found but instead that the module can not be loaded by the kernel. What information does the sound module have to pass to the kernel for it to be loaded and how can that be modified?</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> <--snip--></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> On Monday 18 January 2010 09:52:44 am Theodore Knab wrote:</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> I would try reinstalling the kernel first.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> running uname -r I get 2.6.27.42-0.1-pae</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> I used to have 2.6.27.42-0.1-default</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> I presume that the kernel I have now is an updated (patched) one. How would I</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> make sure that I am installing the correct kernel? I think the "default"</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> kernel is the one which came on the installation dvd.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">>></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; 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This can be caused by incorrect <BR>module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters." <BR><BR>Sound was working perfectly on this hardware with this driver under open <BR>Suse10.3. Sound still works perfectly when Knoppix (kernel 2.6.19 ) is <BR>booted.<BR><BR>What I have done-<BR>I have attempted to run alsaconfig without success.<BR><BR>I have attempted to look for information in /bin/dmesg using vim but the <BR>output is not readable to me.<BR><BR>I have downloaded and installed the most recent alsa-driver-1.0.xx from <BR>www.alsa-project.org. This may have been a mistake. It did not fix anything.<BR><BR>I would like to find out how to 1. identify the proper IO and IRQ parameters <BR>for this sound chip and 2 modify the sound module so that the proper <BR>parameters are used.<BR><BR>-- <BR><BR>David F. Bleil<BR>Catboat sailor from Crofton<BR><BR>SUSE Linux 11.1<BR>This penguin can fly!<BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 4<BR>Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:10:16 -0500<BR>From: Thomas Gallen <kaori.hinata@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Lugstuff] Thank you for your responses - still seeking a<BR>solution<BR>To: David F Bleil <dfbleil@toad.net><BR>Cc: lugstuff@annapolislinux.org<BR>Message-ID: <94BF3823-1C19-49C9-8CD7-2A579AB861DD@gmail.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<BR><BR>Ahh, sorry about the confusion. /bin/dmesg is a program not a log file. To run it, you type "dmesg" (without the quotes) in a terminal window and press enter. If your distribution prevents normal users from running the dmesg program then you will have to type "sudo dmesg" (without the quotes) then input your password when asked (the one you use to log in to your computer) in order to run it.<BR><BR>Another option you have if you want to find out what's going on is to try to load the module then use "sudo less /var/log/messages" to look at the system log for messages regarding the loading of your sound card module. Once the file loads, use page down to go to the bottom of this file (the newest entries are at the bottom). If you find anything that looks like an error, go ahead an post it to the list. You can then quit "less" by pressing the "q" key.<BR><BR>Hope that helps clear that up,<BR>Thomas<BR><BR>On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:02 PM, David F Bleil wrote:<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Background of problem-</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> OS = open Suse 11.1 Kernel 2.6.27.42-0.1-pae Kernel sound driver </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> snd_via82xx</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Hardware Info reports Model VIA VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio controller</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> IO Port Active:yes Length: 256 Mode:rw Start:56320 </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> IRQ Count 8941 Enabled:yes IRQ: 22</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Subvender ASRock incorporated</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Attempting to configure the sound with Yast2 the error message is "The kernel </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> module snd_via82xx could not be loaded. This can be caused by incorrect </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters." </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Sound was working perfectly on this hardware with this driver under open </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Suse10.3. Sound still works perfectly when Knoppix (kernel 2.6.19 ) is </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> booted.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> What I have done-</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> I have attempted to run alsaconfig without success.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> I have attempted to look for information in /bin/dmesg using vim but the </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> output is not readable to me.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> I have downloaded and installed the most recent alsa-driver-1.0.xx from </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> www.alsa-project.org. This may have been a mistake. It did not fix anything.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> I would like to find out how to 1. identify the proper IO and IRQ parameters </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> for this sound chip and 2 modify the sound module so that the proper </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> parameters are used.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> -- </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> David F. Bleil</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Catboat sailor from Crofton</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> SUSE Linux 11.1</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> This penguin can fly!</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> _______________________________________________</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Lugstuff mailing list</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Lugstuff@annapolislinux.org</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> <A href="http://list.annapolislinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugstuff">http://list.annapolislinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugstuff</A></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 5<BR>Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:44:32 -0500<BR>From: Theodore Knab <tjk@annapolislinux.org><BR>Subject: Re: [Lugstuff] It only gets more interesting -read confusing.<BR>To: David F Bleil <dfbleil@toad.net><BR>Cc: lugstuff@annapolislinux.org<BR>Message-ID: <20100121024432.GA15401@annapolislinux.org><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<BR><BR>If SUSE is using grub as a boot loader, you should be able to load the<BR>old kernel if it exists.<BR><BR>Here are the commands:<BR>1. <BR>cd /boot/grub/<BR><BR>Look at the menu1st file.<BR><BR>2.<BR>less menu.lst<BR><BR>Verify the Kernels in the list if there are more than one are on the<BR>hard drive. They should be in /boot unless SUSE calls them something<BR>else.<BR><BR>After verifying that you have the kernel on the list, you can change the 'default' paramater to a<BR>different number. For example, my menu.1st reads:<BR>## default num<BR># Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from<BR># 0, and<BR># the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.<BR>#<BR># You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default<BR># entry<BR># is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.<BR># WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved'<BR># or your<BR># array will desync and will not let you boot your system.<BR>default 0<BR><BR>This should get your sound back.<BR><BR>Once you modify the /boot/grub/menu.1st file restart and the new kernel<BR>should come up.<BR><BR>If it does not, throw in a Knoppix CD and change the file back to the<BR>way it was. Then reboot.<BR><BR><BR>On 19/01/10 20:05 -0500, David F Bleil wrote:<BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> On Monday 18 January 2010 09:52:44 am Theodore Knab wrote:</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> ></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> I would try reinstalling the kernel first.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> running uname -r I get 2.6.27.42-0.1-pae</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> I used to have 2.6.27.42-0.1-default</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> I presume that the kernel I have now is an updated (patched) one. How would I </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> make sure that I am installing the correct kernel? I think the "default" </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> kernel is the one which came on the installation dvd.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> -- </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> David F. Bleil</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Catboat sailor from Crofton</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> SUSE Linux 11.1</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> This penguin can fly!</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> _______________________________________________</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Lugstuff mailing list</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Lugstuff@annapolislinux.org</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #666699; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> <A href="http://list.annapolislinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugstuff">http://list.annapolislinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugstuff</A></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR><BR>-- <BR>Ted Knab<BR>Stevensville, MD USA<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Lugstuff mailing list<BR>Lugstuff@annapolislinux.org<BR><A href="http://list.annapolislinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugstuff">http://list.annapolislinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugstuff</A><BR><BR><BR>End of Lugstuff Digest, Vol 18, Issue 8<BR>***************************************<BR></SPAN></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BODY></HTML>